I have maintained for several years, that genocide and violence have been the human norm. This is a constant theme in many of my poems. I have been challenged to prove my assertion. I am in the process of creating a genocide timeline.This timeline will cover (hopefully), the 5 thousand years, of genocidal, recorded history. Please feel free to suggest additions to me. It is a work in progress, as I will be working backwards from 2008. I must add, that it is time that we become more than human and that the norm must become, the aberrant. For any history buffs interested in this project, please contact me about becoming an editor, in order to add to the timeline. You have to register first, in order to become an editor; the link is at:
  Timeline Sign-up. 
HOWEVER, my timeline can be viewed at: Genocide Timeline, A .
I posted this poem, several weeks ago and find it appropo in light of this project, to repost: We write of peace. while engaging in war...declare our love of the other, passionately, with a bewildering contradictory sincerity...eons ago, man picked up a rock and bashed another in the head; today we can, with cold calculation kill from greater distances and the hundreds and thousands of broken bodies lie dead...we have advanced from rocks to missiles, while we arrogantly insist, to have evolved pass our barbaric antecedents...continue to engage in hostilities and violence...a violence that has been unremitting and is the chosen method of problem resolution...our 5000 years of recorded history, reads like an epic saga of blood, gore and terror...we are like the sophomoric adult, who refuses to grow up and play nicely...the child who refuses to share his toys...with a hatred and disdain, of the other, that seems to be hardwired, in our genes...but...we are filled with outrage, when we view news stories and the evidence of this violence and the lie, is revealed...I say to you, my dear reader, my loving friends, my skeptical detractors, that we are the problem...you and I...and we must be the solution...the politicians have no payoff in solving these problems...this taxonomic squabbling rewards them richly...the gun runners, the robber barons...these bottom feeders and scavengers...it must be you and I, the ordinary person who must state quietly, or loudly, with conviction, unequivocally - no mas, no more, nicht mehr, nient'altro, não mais, אין כל יותר, niet meer, 没有, 더 이상, sόχι άλλος, لا الكثير...homo sapiens sapiens must become more than human or surely, we will all die...we must eradicate that genetic instinct to fear the other...we must breed out the fear of being different, from our genome...we must alter, on the microscopic level, the emotional level, the need to reject other tribes...we must become more than human...
 | I feel very glad reading your poem... well, let me explain:
I think we need to see our real condition... we need to be aware of it... it's not too late!
"we must become more than human", yes... we must learn how to feel compassion and love...
thanks, Venetia!
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 | if you need help, I am no 'editor' by any stretch....but I believe in your voice, I always have. And I would love to assist you any way I can. |
 | The Children's Crusade springs to mind as an early example of such horrible behavior, though obviously, it's not exactly genocide. The Crusades as a whole came first to my mind, then the Children's Crusade. The pogroms, the Inquisition, some of the empire-building techniques of older civilizations, the original Jihads, the Vikings, the Huns, the Mongols.
I haven't mentioned really recent things because you're looking to prove a history.
And I haven't said anything tremendously original--these are just my first thoughts. I'm sure they've all occurred to you. I'll be thinking about this and probably coming back to add more ideas--better ones, I hope. |
 | Lightworkers needed more and more, eyes opened needed everywhere, this tree falling from my front yard, 5 ton tree, not one neighbor offered a hand, how sad is that? One day a group came to help pick up branches they couldnt help saw but the point is their hearts were there, so as we struggle cleaning and sawing and seeing others standing there watching it breaks my heart.
I have a site I am also a lightworker here in this state I moved to, and my mission is to open as many hearts as I can.
We must become more then the human, yes indeed.The world needs to become one, see, know, before its to late...
Hugz and Love, love and Light |
| every time man has moved across the planet there has been a genocide of sorts. there is evidence right here in the SW that one of the indigenous cultures (and I cannot remember if it was the Mayans, the Incas, or the Aztecs) moved up from what is now Mexico into the SW and contributed to the disappearance of the Anasazi....they found evidence of filed teeth (pointed teeth) and human tooth marks on other human bones....
I remember my ancient history prof saying that neanderthals were wiped out by cromagnons....partially due to cromagnon's hunger for popping open a skull for some tasty brain...I'd have to dig for proof on that...but I'm guessing this timeline will be studded with events.... |
 |  The Children's Crusade springs to mind as an early example of such horrible behavior, though obviously, it's not exactly genocide. The Crusades as a whole came first to my mind, then the Children's Crusade. The pogroms, the Inquisition, some of the empire-building techniques of older civilizations, the original Jihads, the Vikings, the Huns, the Mongols.
I haven't mentioned really recent things because you're looking to prove a history.
And I haven't said anything tremendously original--these are just my first thoughts. I'm sure they've all occurred to you. I'll be thinking about this and probably coming back to add more ideas--better ones, I hope.  actually I am linking war with genocide...so the Children's Crusade is an excellent suggestion...if you want to add that as a 13th century genocide, I can add you as an editor... |
| vghozlan wrote on Jul 2, edited on Jul 2 if you need help, I am no 'editor' by any stretch....but I believe in your voice, I always have. And I would love to assist you any way I can. T - register here:
hhttp://www.xtimeline.com/signup.aspxtas an editor...then I think that I can then send you an invite to be an editor...just let me know. Mine is under my gmail email....even if you add only one event...if would be helpful... |
| How much detail would you want? I'm not up to any big research projects at this very moment... though it might be interesting later, when things are going smoother.
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| I was thinking of several classes of people that I could gleefully bash their heads in with a rock, most of who so richly deserve it. I guess that it would be uncivil and cause so much angst in the Ghandiites, so I'll just leave that job to politicians and generals who are more inured to the cries of outrage than I am.
"They cry 'Peace! Peace!', but there is no peace." |
| I'm a big thicky. I didn't see the link. See, the text of the poem is white, and the text of the link is white, and--did I mention being a thicky?
I'd be happy to add the Children's Crusade, but I might not get a chance before next week... |
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| I agree with all you said, and you say it all so well, Vee... |
| vghozlan wrote on Jul 2, edited on Jul 2 I'm a big thicky. I didn't see the link. See, the text of the poem is white, and the text of the link is white, and--did I mention being a thicky?
I'd be happy to add the Children's Crusade, but I might not get a chance before next week... K- no worries...the more that I research the MORE I find examples of my premise - that genocide is the human norm...one wonders how the human race continues on...it is depressing...I could stay on the 20th & 21st century for WEEKS before exhausting the various reports & databases...it is damn depressing...I mean, if war is the ULTIMATE in genocide (if one uses that as your starting thesis...and unless one in a Quaker or an uncontacted Native and yes folks, there are tribes of uncontacted Natives in South America), every damn human tribe has annihlated or subsumed another tribe....and the reason are always what I have started to call the big four - greed, religion, intolerance, lebanstrum or "my way is the better way"... |
 | It is depressing, but you are doing something that is so worthwhile in the long run to make people more aware and shake them up. Genocide is never and never will be justified, regardless of situation, nation, race or religion. We all have the same blood flowing through our veins, we are all the children of our chosen beliefs and we all came from the same place- our mother's wombs. But there have been millions of mothers slaughtered, millions of children who have never been born because somebody decided that they didn't have the right to live. |
 | Interesting. I think most major civilizations have committed genocide against someone if they were large enough or powerful enough. Genocide is usually committed in the name of peace or destiny. Since most civilizations encroached upon each other as they grew, genocide was an easy way of ridding an irritating neighbor. The subject of genocide brings up so many issues, like: how we treat our fellow man, the indifference that pervades when large numbers of people are killed, the inevitability of war and/or conquest, over population and the struggle for resources, and much more... |
| Interesting. I think most major civilizations have committed genocide against someone if they were large enough or powerful enough. Genocide is usually committed in the name of peace or destiny. Since most civilizations encroached upon each other as they grew, genocide was an easy way of ridding an irritating neighbor. The subject of genocide brings up so many issues, like: how we treat our fellow man, the indifference that pervades when large numbers of people are killed, the inevitability of war and/or conquest, over population and the struggle for resources, and much more... and Bri, that's been one of the things that I harp on, when discussing this issue...this is the NORM...so when people are shocked/dismayed by the violence perpetrated in their name, for state security and other so-called reasonable justifications, I query their astonishment...my poem indicates much of this...we speak of peace but commit mayhem on a frequent basis... |
 | study all species...man or animal and you will see the same thing...the problem is, we are supposed to be above such animal like behavior having been given not only an intelligence, but perhaps also a soul |
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